[jdom-interest] Should we Move JDOM to Apache Jakarta ?
jhunter at servlets.com
Wed Oct 29 00:50:58 PST 2003
Some random thoughts on the idea...
As Sean pointed out, a JDOM type project would indeed go to
xml.apache.org rather than jakarta.apache.org.
In the early days we considered working within Apache but didn't for two
main reasons. First, xml.apache.org was undergoing some internal
strife. I think that's been resolved. Second, despite being an Apache
member myself, I think Philipp has a good point that Apache projects
tend to grow plentiful in features. The Apache collaborative
development model was organically grown for the purpose of collaborating
on externally defined specs and APIs (i.e. HTTP). It can work for API
design but it's not known for creating elegant, focused APIs. It
encourages development in many directions and usually relies on the spec
or API to limit "sprawl". One of the goals with JDOM has been to avoid
The appeal of the Apache idea is that the JDOM code needs a bit more
energy to keep it going to 1.0. Would putting it within Apache bring
that energy? Tough to know. We already have a great community here
and people who answer questions and fix bugs. Our issue I think is that
JDOM as built today solves most everyone's problem. It surely solves
mine. That's a good thing, but the need to scratch the itch just isn't
there. We have a few little things before 1.0 but the JSR thing has
kept us from just pushing 1.0 final, and no one's wanted to step up to
lead in my stead. The better solution probably is to 1.0 it here, then
if Apache would want to work on 1.1 or 2.0 that'd be excellent. A new
set of feature ideas would grow a good community there. If it were to
get more complicated there's always 1.0 for people who like simple.
The most difficult aspect of an Apache donation is that we haven't been
collecting contributor agreements. We'd have to get signatures from all
significant contributors allowing the donation. That's what
SpamAssassin just had to go through
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