[jdom-interest] jdom and dom4j

Sam bytecode at Phreaker.net
Tue Jun 18 13:25:40 PDT 2002

I agree. The fact that the JSR has not moved an inch on the JCP
page in a years time (Expert group is being formed) speaks for itslef.

JSR's have known to be abandoned in the past... so I wouldnt put
too much weight behind this.


bob mcwhirter wrote:
> > The fact JDOM is going through the JCP process as an official JSR isn't
> > mentioned either.
> I thought we'd gone over this a few times, and decided that the JSR status
> was basically meaningless?
> Am I wrong, or is the fact JDOM is a JSR only means that JDOM will be using
> the JCP for its own development, but implies nothing regarding the "Java
> Standard".  If/when JSR 102 reaches maturity, will org.jdom.* become
> a part of the JDK or JAXPacks?  (or, renamed to javax.xml.tree.*, or
> whatnot?)
> > Looking just at the facts on the page, JDOM now has integrated XPath (as
> > of the latest CVS code) and we've had integrated JAXP/TRaX support for
> > quite a long time.  Both of those bullet items should be updated.
> >
> > The "Massive documents" and "event-based processing" items probably
> > refer to dom4j's feature to only build parts of the tree.  Laurent wrote
> > similar code for JDOM.  Look at the "spanner" code in jdom-contrib.  If
> > it becomes popular and people like the API, we'll make it core.
> I think, in both cases, he's comparing out-of-the-box with out-of-the-box,
> ignoring contrib'd projects.  I think.  I could certainly be wrong.
> > Hmm, dom4j says "built on Java interfaces".  What that probably should
> > say is it's built on its own interfaces.  Both dom4j and JDOM support
> > standard interfaces like java.util.List, Cloneable, and so on.
> Interface-based as opposed to concrete-class based, is the point he's
> trying to make, I think.
> > Hmm, other interesting features that aren't mentioned are whether the
> > API can *output* a document.  DOM L2 doesn't even support that in a
> > standard manner.  I suspect there's a lot of features that could be
> > added to a list like this.  Perhaps we should write a comparison chart
> > on the JDOM site.
> There's been quite a few charts/tables comparing JDOM to DOM in many
> regards.  But typically, the folks constructing the charts/tables
> ignore dom4j completely.  dom4j hasn't gotten nearly the press
> attention as JDOM.
>         -bob
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