jdom at tuis.net
Thu Dec 13 17:22:07 PST 2012
Hi Jason, All.
Technically the official download is from jdom.org, and the github is
just a copy, but the jdom.org download page actually points to the
github copy of the page if you click the link (or you still have the
option of navigating on to the jdom.org download area which will *not*
download from github, but from jdom.org).
I like being able to see how many downloads are being done, and I can
tell from the github pages that there's about 250 downloads a day (at
4MB each that's 1GB a day, which I suppose is quite a lot, really, for
one project using a free service... hmmm. We should set up a torrent for
I don't know how many downloads happen from the 'horse's mouth'
It would be great if we could get statistics on the combined download
activity for the various releases.... makes for entertainment and some
satisfaction (hey, it's nice to know that people use JDOM, through ways
other than just bug reports.... ;-).
Adding this to the jdom.org site may be relatively complicated because
you would have to trawl the web logs, keep a bookmark to avouid double-
counts, etc. More effort than it seems is worth it.
For what it's worth I can also follow the maven-central statistics. For
there the downloads are more interesting to track because it shows a lot
of inertia on the 1.1 release of JDOM... of course, now the maven site
(oss.sonatype.org) is misbehaving, but about 35-40K downloads a month,
of which 80% or so are for JDOM 1.1, about 10% are for 1.1.1 through
1.1.3, and about 10% was for JDOM 2.x releases.... that's based on
memory the last time I actually checked was about the 8th of december,
and it only updates once a month, for the previous month, about 1 week
in to the next... i.e. I check the maven-central downloads once a month
sometime after the 7th of the month.
You can see why jdom 1.1 is still so popular in maven when you see:
compare it with:
Also, compare it with:
The mvnrepository site has not yet included the 2.0.4 version (lazy
people ... ;-)
Bottom line is that when maven projects use things like saxon, they pull
the slow and more buggy 1.1 code instead of 1.1.3.
This is another reason why I don't like Maven... 30K people a month are
downloading code from 2007 that: does not synchronize on the Namespace
class; can't handle surrogate double-char characters; two dozen other
bug fixes; and thinks attributes with no namespace prefix are in the
*default* namespace, not the 'no namespace'.... and there is no way to
stop this madness....
On 13/12/2012 7:23 PM, Jason Hunter wrote:
> Probably we need to move back to jdom.org <http://jdom.org>. What
> activity metrics were you watching? Maybe we can just add those on
> jdom.org <http://jdom.org>.
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Rolf Lear wrote:
>> Github has suddenly stopped supporting downloads of binart files.
>> Check the github blog:
>> It appears that they are grandfathering existing files... but we won't
>> be adding any new downloads later...
>> Any suggestions?
>> One obvious option is to use the base jdom.org <http://jdom.org> site,
>> but it is harder to measure activity from there...
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